More On America’s Out of Control gun situation

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10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down Fact-checking some of the gun lobby’s favorite arguments shows they’re full of holes. By Dave Gilson Thu Jan. 31, 2013 7:01 AM EST

By cutting off federal funding for research and stymieing data collection and sharing, the National Rifle Association has tried to do to the study of gun violence what climate deniers have done to the science of global warming. No wonder: When it comes to hard numbers, some of the gun lobby’s favorite arguments are full of holes.

Myth #1: They’re coming for your guns.
Fact-check: No one knows the exact number of guns in America, but it’s clear there’s no practical way to round them all up (never mind that no one in Washington is proposing this). Yet if you fantasize about rifle-toting citizens facing down the government, you’ll rest easy knowing that America’s roughly 80 million gun owners already have the feds and cops outgunned by a factor of around 79 to 1.

gun ownership

Sources: Congressional Research Service (PDF), Small Arms Survey

Myth #2: Guns don’t kill people—people kill people.
Fact-check: People with more guns tend to kill more people—with guns. The states with the highest gun ownership rates have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with the lowest gun ownership rates. Also, gun death rates tend to be higher in states with higher rates of gun ownership. Gun death rates are generally lower in states with restrictions such as assault-weapons bans or safe-storage requirements. Update: A recent study looking at 30 years of homicide data in all 50 states found that for every one percent increase in a state’s gun ownership rate, there is a nearly one percent increase in its firearm homicide rate.

ownership vs gun death

Sources: Pediatrics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Myth #3: An armed society is a polite society.
Fact-check: Drivers who carry guns are 44% more likely than unarmed drivers to make obscene gestures at other motorists, and 77% more likely to follow them aggressively.
• Among Texans convicted of serious crimes, those with concealed-handgun licenses were sentenced for threatening someone with a firearm 4.8 times morethan those without.
• In states with Stand Your Ground and other laws making it easier to shoot in self-defense, those policies have been linked to a 7 to 10% increase in homicides.

Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 30 years: 0
• Chances that a shooting at an ER involves guns taken from guards: 1 in 5

Myth #5: Keeping a gun at home makes you safer.
Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.
• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.
• 43% of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.
• In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

Myth #6: Carrying a gun for self-defense makes you safer.
Fact-check: In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to stop a crime.
• In one survey, nearly 1% of Americans reported using guns to defend themselves or their property. However, a closer look at their claims found thatmore than 50% involved using guns in an aggressive manner, such as escalating an argument.
• A Philadelphia study found that the odds of an assault victim being shot were4.5 times greater if he carried a gun. His odds of being killed were 4.2 times greater.

Myth #7: Guns make women safer.
Fact-check: In 2010, nearly 6 times more women were shot by husbands, boyfriends, and ex-partners than murdered by male strangers.
• A woman’s chances of being killed by her abuser increase more than 7 times if he has access to a gun.
• One study found that women in states with higher gun ownership rates were4.9 times more likely to be murdered by a gun than women in states with lower gun ownership rates.

Myth #8: “Vicious, violent video games” deserve more blame than guns.
Fact-check: So said NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre after Newtown. So what’s up with Japan?

United States Japan
Per capita spending
on video games
$44 $55
Civilian firearms
per 100 people
88 0.6
Gun homicides
in 2008
11,030 11

Sources: PricewaterhouseCoopers, Small Arms Survey (PDF), UN Office on Drugs and Crime

Myth #9: More and more Americans are becoming gun owners.
Fact-check: More guns are being sold, but they’re owned by a shrinking portion of the population.
• About 50% of Americans said they had a gun in their homes in 1973. Today,about 45% say they do. Overall, 35% of Americans personally own a gun.
• Around 80% of gun owners are men. On average they own 7.9 guns each.

Myth #10: We don’t need more gun laws—we just need to enforce the ones we have.
Fact-check:
Weak laws and loopholes backed by the gun lobby make it easier to get guns illegally.
• Around 40% of all legal gun sales involve private sellers and don’t require background checks. 40% of prison inmates who used guns in their crimes got them this way.
• An investigation found 62% of online gun sellers were willing to sell to buyers who said they couldn’t pass a background check.
• 20% of licensed California gun dealers agreed to sell handguns to researchers posing as illegal “straw” buyers.
• The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives did not have a permanent director for 7 years, due to an NRA-backed requirement that the Senate approve nominees.

Original Article

My previous Blog posts on the subject (Just because its too Toxic for you to talk about this issue in the US doesn’t mean I’m not going to talk about it!!)

If you let Guns get out of control in your country its pretty obvious that the Police have to become paramilitaries for even minor arrests – what could go wrong with that…????

Guns Kill People. And If they had Had Universal Background Checks in the US, They Wouldn’t Kill So Many.

The NRA’s Murder Mystery

Child Safety American Style

An American answer to Violent crime – find the ones who will commit the crimes and then pay them not to..

President Barack Obama about the biggest frustration of his presidency….Gun Control

The 2nd amendment doesnt guarantee Americans the right to bear arms – turns out it just had a good publicist

This space reserved for the video of John Oliver talking about Guns in America! He has to do it and it will be epic!

One thought on “More On America’s Out of Control gun situation”

  1. “Myth #1: They’re coming for your guns.
    Fact-check: No one knows the exact number of guns in America, but it’s clear there’s no practical way to round them all up (never mind that no one in Washington is proposing this).”

    Senator Diane Feinstein said that if she had had the votes in the Senate back in 1994 she would have taken them all. So in answer to your “myth,” either you are a liar, or ignorant of statements by many politicians who would very much like to take all the guns they could.

    Kind of reminds of the dirty old man sex pervert who tells the little girl, “Don’t worry, I won’t hurt you.”

    As to “no practical way,” maybe you are unfamiliar with how the Nazis used gun registration lists to seize guns held by people deemed “enemies of the state” way back when, just before they instigated war that took millions and millions of lives.

    “Myth #2: Guns don’t kill people—people kill people.
    … gun death rates tend to be higher in states with higher rates of gun ownership.”

    Yea, well they counted suicides to get that number. But total suicide rates are not higher necessarily in areas with high gun ownership. Compare the total suicide rates between the U.S. and the U.K. Hardly any statistical difference despite Brits having a much harder time getting their hand on a gun. They improvise and find another way.

    “Myth #3: An armed society is a polite society.”

    The fact is that there are now millions of Americans with a license to carry a concealed handgun and they are some of the safest and most law abiding citizens in America.

    “Myth #4: More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys. Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 30 years: 0”

    Your fact check is total bullshit compounded by the fact that mass murders usually occur in “gun free zones.” There are documented cases where murders did not become “mass murders” because someone with a gun _did_ stop the perp.

    “Myth #5: Keeping a gun at home makes you safer.
    Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.”

    By scientifically discredited studies like that of Kellerman.

    Americans probably use firearms upwards of a million times a year in self defense and lives are saved. Kleck found the number to be over 2.5 million in the early 1990s (when crime and homicide rates were much higher).

    lwk

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